[Craigger]

Stopped into a large BMW dealer the other day and saw 6 X5M's lined up outside. Badass truck in Black/Cinnamon int.

[ECB]

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Originally Posted by ECB »

X5M

it handles better,it`s quicker,+55hp and ~ -200kg , better sound ,Diesel like torque from low rews up to high revs , no freaking understeer and -27k Euros (in Germany)

good choice

[670-SV]

Q7 V12 TDi in Night Black with Pale Grey Interior!

[cstroked]

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Originally Posted by Mike S »

Alas, it was not meant to be.

The Audi sales people are good, but they simply can't think out the box. Almost feel as if they lack enthusiasm.

The salesman simply stated he can't give me a better trade in price on the ML63, as the Q7 V12's are quite rare (I laughed in my mind). As if it were some Ferrari so they didn't feel the need to drop the price. The arrogance... the car has been there for months, but that's their problem.

Like I said earlier, the X5 ///M drove better in anycase. I'm kind of relieved. Guess this wasn't my time yet for Audi. Maybe it will be the R8 GT3

I called my BMW dealer (who is also our Rolls, Aston Martin dealer) and he instantly gave me a FAR higher trade in and lower sales price on the BMW X5 ///M. Stay tuned, I might have some new photos to share next week

Mike,

First of all, congrats! That's great to hear that you'll be picking up a new ride.

While it sounds like your salesperson was a complete idiot, there's something I'd like to add. If BMW operates in SA anything like they do here, much of your problem boils down to the fact that, for intents and purposes, (and pardon my crude language) BMW whores out their product. Not only do they have more mark up, they also have hold back - which at in the States we do not, not to mention incentives in the value of the markup if not more. I have been aced out on deals selling a car at cost with all Audi incentives, and BMW has beat me by $6000 + throwing in their financing. You also probably had loyalty... all of the sudden 4k markup becomes 10k+... They are a volume brand - and in my opinion, operate as the GM of Germany - and as such they have much more money to play with.

I just wanted to throw that out there, because I wasn't surprised a bit at the scenario, absent the salesperson being so foolish.

Looking forward to pics!

[Mike S]

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Originally Posted by cstroked »

Mike,

First of all, congrats! That's great to hear that you'll be picking up a new ride.

While it sounds like your salesperson was a complete idiot, there's something I'd like to add. If BMW operates in SA anything like they do here, much of your problem boils down to the fact that, for intents and purposes, (and pardon my crude language) BMW whores out their product. Not only do they have more mark up, they also have hold back - which at in the States we do not, not to mention incentives in the value of the markup if not more. I have been aced out on deals selling a car at cost with all Audi incentives, and BMW has beat me by $6000 + throwing in their financing. You also probably had loyalty... all of the sudden 4k markup becomes 10k+... They are a volume brand - and in my opinion, operate as the GM of Germany - and as such they have much more money to play with.

I just wanted to throw that out there, because I wasn't surprised a bit at the scenario, absent the salesperson being so foolish.

Looking forward to pics!

Thanks cstroked. To be honest, if I had better relations with the guys there. I could have probably twist their arms for a better deal. Like I said never had an Audi before, so I've never had any interaction with them. The group that I normally deal with have an Audi dealer, but no stock of the V12.

Plus I don't need to make a scene, was their loss

You are right about BMW though, they make masses of their cars.

[ECB]

are you planning on getting an exhaust for the M?

I think it definitely needs a bit more growl to match the power and agressive appearance of the car

Did you get the individual Interior with leather on the dash and just about everywhere as well?
Damn..the car is so manly

[Mike S]

The stock exhaust on this car sounds insane! I won't touch that.

Yes, the car has the extended Merino leather

[B4rad]

Congrats Mike. I voted for the X5M. One question though, why are you and some other people calling it the X5 ///M? Is that the real name?

[ECB]

the //M is the label of the M-GmbH

[Bartje]

Nice Mike, can't wait to see some pictures!